Magic City Neighbors Episode 8 - Jeff Ramnytz

As we look to the future, it's tough to find someone that sees more of the future than the school superintendent, Jeff Ramnytz.   We talk with Jeff about his philosophy of doing what's best for kids and providing them with opportunities and experiences to find what they're good at as part of the "Do Your Job" curriculum.  "Do Your Job" focuses on soft skills and preparing students for adulthood as he shares his personal experience of transitioning from a teamster to becoming a teacher.
It's no secret that Jeff has a passion for helping kids in Barberton and he's grateful for the community's support. We talk about the importance of communication and making connections. 
Additionally, we talk about leading through the pandemic and the challenges it posed such as staying connected with students during online learning. Finally, we find out what Jeff's retirement plans are and we're pretty sure that if you know him, you know what they'll look like.  Make sure to watch the whole thing to find out!

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Welcome back. This week I'm Jack. And I'm still Josh also and he's I'm still just across the table from us. We have the Barberton City school superintendent Jeff Ramnytz stay tuned You're listening. The Magic City neighbors on the mike, where we talk to your Barberton neighbors about their stories, their insights and what gets them laughing. Make sure to like, share and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. And now to the show. Hey, everyone. Thanks for tuning back in this week. I am Josh and next to me, we've got Jack. Yeah. You still the same guy again? Same guy? Yeah. It's weird how that happens in an across the table from us. We have a brand new person in Jeff Ramnytz. and Jeff, You do something with the schools, I believe. Have you been associated with the schools before? Nothing. Nothing too important. The important part are the teachers, students and parents. So I'm just kind of hanging out and overseeing things. So just hanging out overhead and I don't I don't do too much. No, no. I do. I still I still remember the when we were filming with the Barberton Community Foundation, I still remember the first day seeing you like fist bump every single kid that you could come in contact with, which to me was amazing. That's just so neat. It was a neat interaction to see because you were out there just like a Hey, hey, I'm assuming you have blisters on your hand after always, Always. Throughout the school year, they heal up and then they start again right back again next year. So to me, there's there's a couple of things that I'm kind of curious about. The one is, is a you've seemed to move the school in in a really good direction. And I mean, I know that you took over something that was in pretty good shape as it was. It is gone forward. What's been a guiding principle, I guess, that you would say that you've used in that and to keep that momentum going forward? Well, I think it's it's been my philosophy the whole time is I'm always going to do what's best for kids. You know, things change in education. But the one thing I know is we want our kids to have great lives and what we try to do is provide as many experiences, as many opportunities for them so they can find what they're good at. And I think that that's which driven me this entire time. I was principal for nine years before I became superintendent and we started a lot of things that we're continuing and at the high school at that time, and I've taken it up to when I'm superintendent, but I've also pushed it all the way down all the way into the preschool. Wow. And I'll give you a for instance, we're really, really focused on, you know, the program, the do your job program, which some people say, well, that's you know, that's Bill Belichick. And I'm like, no, it's Steve Remnants. He used to tell me that every day, just shut up and do your job. He's had that way before Bill Belichick. But what this is it is a it's a soft skills program I call them power skills because we started talking to businesses when I was back in high school and they were saying, you know, we're getting all these kids out of high school. They can't do this, they can't do that. They don't show up on time. They don't take direction very well. And they're like, I'm like, I thought we started talking. Our staff started talking. I said, What can we do to address this? Because I want Barberton kids to walk across the stage and go right in and have every opportunity they can to have a great life. Be ready. Yeah, be ready, be ready for being an adult. And so we started talking, so we knew we need to address this. So we started, we came up. It was actually the staff. I went to the staff and I said, Listen, we have to do something. Not every kid's going to college, but these skills will transfer into college. They'll transfer into the military, they'll transfer into if you're employed. So we put together a curriculum called the Do Your Job curriculum. And I'm talking about that now is because, like I said, I've taken that. We had that at the high school. We had a class called the Do Your Job Class, and then we had every senior had to take career communications where you're where you're building a portfolio, you're writing at your resume, you're interviewing. I mean, just things that I wish I would have had. Yeah, I bomb my first interview and he just told me to come back in a few years when I was ready and I was like, okay, that's harsh. And I go back. Steve Ramdev said that he wasn't real happy that I went in there and I was like, I don't know what to do, but it seems like you've changed a little bit. A little bit. I am a talker and I have a doubt, but what I've done as superintendent is we've we've pushed these skills that are that when you walk out every everybody should have those. Yeah. Or have an idea but we've pushed them down to the pre school, to the primary school, to the intermediate school, to the middle school because again, I'm an old football coach and my philosophy is, is if you're going to have a good varsity, you better have a good job and a good youth program. Yeah. So and I'm all about building consistency online, coach. I'm all about building consistency. But you got to you have to build that foundation. This is like reading and math. You have to build that foundation early and then you grow each year. And that's kind of our philosophy. But yeah, we've, we've taken a lot of things that we know are good for students, not only academically but in their life. And we've pushed those things down and provide those experiences because everybody's good at something. Yeah, and I think I really, truly believe it's our job in schools and I think to find what they're good at or to provide those opportunities so they can find what they're good at. And I'm not a proponent of every 18 year old needs to know what they want to do right away. I always tell them, you know, through work, you will find your pathway. You'll find what you want to do, you'll find what you don't want to do. And I'll give you a for instance, I before I became a teacher, I was a teamster. I worked on the docks. I loaded trucks. No kidding. And that's what my dad did. And my my brothers, my uncles. I worked one night and it was 24 below. Wind chill factor. You realize you did not one. And I was like, I'm going back to college. This is this is not for me, you know? And I give my dad all the credit in the world for doing that for 32 years, just working out in that and there's people to do it. Oh, those of us that are like down there still and they relate took it away. He was great at it. He loved it. He you know, he went in every day. He loved every minute of it. And I did I loved it, too. But I realized through that work that this is not something I want to do long term. No. So just things like that. Those are the experiences I want our students to experience in and to be exposed to all the way through. it's not just the old adage. If you do something that you love. Yep, you're not going to work. And I will tell you, I think I don't know if it's the first question you're going to ask me or the second question, but this is your 35. I'm going into this going into my 18th year in Barberton, and there's not been a day that I've not looked forward to coming in to work in during some tough times. I think that we'll talk about that later. Yeah, yeah. We're going to allude to that during some tough times, but there wasn't a day that I did not want to come into work to help kids. That's awesome. And I love helping Barberton kids and I'll even when I'm done, I'm not going anywhere. I'll still be around helping out wherever I can and making sure that our kids are getting what they need and yeah, and making those connections with outside businesses. It's just been an amazing ride here. I just can't say enough about the students, the parents, the community I've made. This is year 35. I've worked in three school districts and I've never been in, you know, coaching. I've been in five different school districts. I've never seen a community so supportive because they love everything you do. Jeffrey and Mr. Snow and I'm okay with that, but at least I'll sit down and talk with me about it. And I love that, too. Better than silence, for sure. Oh, absolutely. Voice your opinion. Absolutely. And and that's that's you know, that's another skill. You teach kids. They listen, talk, talk, say something, Sit down face to face. Not over on a not on a text, not on a Facebook post. Ramsey's a knucklehead, you know. You know, You've seen that before. Yeah, we know. We know that to be true. But if you really want to make a difference, come down and talk to me about it. And that's what I put out to everybody. Listen, if you if you have any issues, please come down and talk to me about it. How old is the high school now? I think it was built in 2000. Okay. And if you if you go into it, that's what I'm going to ask our audience. Renew it. Is it still brand new? I said I have lunch with someone yesterday who his his kids do basketball and they were in the school last year. And I said, would you believe that school's like 25 years old? And he goes, What? And he goes, It's like two years old. And I said, No, how how does that I mean, how does that speak to the culture of the schools and what you guys are trying to accomplish? Oh, listen, it's that place is the beacon. When you drive in off of our road. I mean, that beautiful facility is right there and it makes you proud. And like I said, what I love is our our custodians and our maintenance people are second to none. Yeah. And that they keep that place beautiful and they take pride in it. And that's what I love about again, that's part of the the, the atmosphere of this place and the culture of the entire city is people take pride in everything that they do here. They do an amazing job and they make sure they know that that that represents them, that represents vibrant. And they want the kids coming in to clean halls, clean classrooms. They want everything fixed. Yeah. And they do an amazing job. I just I can't say enough about all of our staff, but we're you know, we're talking specifically about what they do. But yeah, that walking in there and seeing and driving on Barbara Road and seeing that that beautiful building has such the tone it does for everything that we do and everything that we're about. And I love it. I mean, it just it gives me chills. Again, I'm like, you know, when I was principal there, I was like, I drive, you know, driving. I'm like, oh my God, it know principal, this building. I mean, they allow me to be a principal this big. Hey, he's the superintendent. And I'm like, Oh my God. I mean, all of our buildings are beautiful, but I think, you know, when you drive in, that's. That's the one. It's the crown jewel. It is the crown jewel. And any time that I bring people in because, you know, one of the things part of the do your job is we have a business advisory council and we have over 60 businesses and organizations that that attend that. And they talk to us about, you know, what their needs are. We talk about what we were trying to do in the classrooms to help them, because our goal really and truly is I want our kids to have great lives. So we're trying to help build that workforce. Yeah. And, you know, we want kids to go out and go to college and go to different places and experience things. But we also want them to come home, right? And to be here and to work and to contribute. So in that business advisory, they they tell us all kinds of things that really help us out that we put into our curriculum that really helps our kids and. Right. And then we also take the kids to those companies. They come in and talk to our kids because they don't want it. They don't want to hear, you know, everything about, you know, fraud or superintendent. They want to hear from the actual people that are doing it. So if you're interested in being an engineer, we have engineers come in, then we go to where they work. Yeah, to experience those things. And one thing I'm really proud of with the city, I don't know if you've heard about this, but we, you know, talking with them and talking with, you know, the union, the Army union, they, you know, nobody's taken the social the of civil service tests anymore. Okay. And there's lots of jobs opening. Yeah. A lot of people are getting ready to retire, including myself. I'm like on the edge of that baby boomer, whatever that means. I don't know. I don't. I'm. I'm a labor like boomer. Yeah, but there's a lot of knowledge getting ready to retire. Yeah, And I. I truly believe that we need to get these kids with. And that's just not with the city, but everywhere. Yeah, there's a lot of people getting ready to retire. A lot of knowledge is going to be leaving. So we need to get our kids connected with them. I think the future of education is apprenticeships and internships. I agree. I think sitting in rows all day is for the birds. Something, you know, we do, but we're also we're changing it. We're changing that narrative that, yeah, it's okay, go, go experience this. And we have 21 career ed programs. And what I tell kids is, you know, go that pathway. And yes, that might be your pathway, but if not, you didn't go to college and spend, you know, $100,000 getting that degree and realizing then you don't like it right. Getting to get your early experience. Now, they can they can realize that in high school that, you know, nursing is not for me. You know, I didn't realize that they had to do that. Right. I didn't want to stab people as much as I thought did. Exactly. I mean, I just had my my hip replaced. And yeah, three of the the nurses that that helped get me ready were from our program. That's. And you woke up from the surgery. I did wake up in the streets and they just been nice to them down there. I can't believe this they stayed in nursing after that, you know, seeing me in one of those hospital gown. But hey, listen. But that made me that that was a source of pride for me. I'm like, this is amazing that, you know, that this is what they're doing and they love it. That's just very proud of all the programs. But those connections from from work to that, you know, from the Business Advisory Council, it lets me go back to the the we call it the municipality class. So we're starting small. So we took about 11 kids and in their junior year last year they spent time in all six of the departments in the city water department like who think oh, who thinks of working at the water department. But what a great job you could take that We knew people there. Yeah, you could take that certification, go anywhere. United States. I like water. Yeah, I do too. But there's a part of the water, you know. Right. The other part, like, I'm not the drinking water. I like. I like new water. Yeah, but. But they're, they're spending time in those departments, all six of them during that year. And then those people are coming in to talk to the kids. And that's I love that because they're they're passionate about their jobs. And I, I love seeing that. I don't care what you do if you're passionate about it and you love it, this can be great. Well, their senior year this year, they're going to pick one or two to actually go and do an internship. It That's amazing. And does it mean that they're going to go into that? No, but they've experienced all six. They get an internship. If they do, they we're we're starting a pipeline. We're starting a pipeline. And if they go those positions, what a leg up. Yes. I mean, if to to have that experience. So if you're out of high school and go I mean, let's say they go someplace else and they go to apply for a job and it's two people out of high school and one says, I worked with the water department for four months. Yes. That's a that's a dunk. It is a dunk. And like I said, experiences. Is this the key? And that's why I think that's where education needs to go. I don't know if you know it, but I was speaking at Rotary and Kiwanis. They have changed the name of the Ohio Department of Education to the Ohio Department of Education and Workforce. Wow. And we've actually been talking that talk since 213 when I was at the high school, because as far as I'm concerned, schools, workforce and economic development are one in the same. Yep. And ultimately, if companies are going to come here to bargaining, we have to have a workforce that's ready to go, that's trainable, that that's teachable, because these business fellows, they say to us, listen, because we do listen to them. It just gives somebody that'll show up every day. They can take direction and we'll we'll take care of the rest. And a lot of times these companies are sending kids to school, paying for it. They're paying for their gas money to drive to school. The opportunities are unbelievable for children, and that's why we're really building it from the bottom up, from the lower grades to the middle school and to the high school, and then trying to provide as many experiences as we possibly can to them so they can figure out what they're good at. I was telling another group today, I you know, I made the comment at one of our business advisory meetings that, you know, it's our job to find out what kids are good at. And I talked to a gentleman from one of the companies in the area and he's like, I'm glad you said that. He goes, I didn't do school. He goes, I didn't do books writing. That wasn't my thing. He was I was actually on an individual education plan. And he goes, But I can take apart and put together anything I remember. That was my thing. And he's working for a company where that's what he does. He fixes fixes machines that bottle and can And so I, I asked him, I'm like, well, you don't have to tell me to go about how much you make who's a young guy. He goes about 220,000. And I'm like, You need to come talk to our kids. Because. Because how many kids just don't love sitting? And, you know, they don't love it. They don't love the school thing. But boy, you get them in a place like that where they're where they're fixing like our machining, they're going to explode. And we have we have cyber security. These are when we try to add where we know there's going to be jobs in the future. Yep. You know, cybersecurity is everywhere now. You better have somebody who is a cybersecurity person. You know, the health care, the four cities Compaq is amazing because, you know, a lot of a lot of the school districts have BBQs where they send the kids off to another site. Right here we have nine no, excuse me, I think 11 programs. Bosworth has about seven or eight. Copley has so many in the Norton has so many. Now those kids can come to our place and we our kids go to their place, but they're still basically in a school. In a school, they're with us. And when those other kids from those other schools come to our barber and they're our family right? And that's what I love. And then our kids go over there and they treat they're treated very well and they get great experiences, that's all. And we actually, you know, at some point, we you know, I told you, we push it down. We have our sometimes we have our fourth graders come up to our high school programs so they can start seeing what we have at the high school and we definitely have our middle school kids come over to see those programs. But we're starting things in the middle school that are amazing, that are going to expose students to like over 22 different occupations. Wow. Just about every kid in the middle school will go through just to get that. Oh, my gosh. Yes. This is what this is out there. This is my thing. I enjoy this. This is what I want to do because I still don't know what I want to be. I'm 59. I don't I don't know what I want. And it's so funny. I mean, we had I mean, had I known that what I do now was an option, my path would have been very different. Speaking of different, you have. Because how we learned a couple of years ago. Yeah. So your your recently have quite a bit of involvement with the schools. No. Yeah. Somewhat like, like 1213 years with like you just stopped a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. But I so kind of leading through the pandemic, think about how challenging it was because I can say as well for myself, I was online. It was not easy on me. For example, for one of the ones in many, how do you feel like what was the most important part of that of that learning experience, trying to stay connected with the kids, even like in a normal year when they're not with us? Summer after school? I'm a worrier by nature. I worry about our kids. I really don't know. I get it. I know when they're with us and they're they're experiencing the best teachers in the area, the best staff in the area. And they're they're participating in all the programing that we have that makes me feel good. But man, when it when when they told us we were shutting down, it was it was like, oh, my goodness, celebration for me. Oh, I for three weeks off. And I was like, Heck yeah. And then after that for like two years, am I going to do. But no, I was, I was worried because again, sometimes our kids count us, count on us for being able to eat. Yeah. So we actually set up a system where we were we had our food distribution at the schools, we put them on busses and drove around the city and again, the staff just did an amazing job. Everybody stepped up. Everybody stepped up to make sure that kids, if they needed food, we were getting food to them, the ones that were online. I mean, everybody was online at first, but then, you know, some were able to come back. Some still chose to stay online, which is fine. Our our teachers adapted to that, but just checking on them and the social emotional part of it, it was tough. It was tough. And we're still seeing the you know, or the ramifications from that. We're still seeing them now. I mean, there are some kids who were out of school for two and a half years that were hadn't hadn't been in school yet. Okay. And that's you know, they just it's a social adjustment. It's a social adjustment. And they miss years of learning how to learn, make sense. And so there's still a lot of catching up to do. You know, everything's, you know, seems back to normal, but not within the walls. We still see the issues that are taking place with a lot of our kids. And it's not just academic, but it's social, emotional. But what we've done, we have between 12 and 15 organizations, social emotional organizations that are amazing that we have we have put together, we've sat down with them and we said, listen, And usually they're in competition, you know, for that. And I said, listen, we have enough for everybody. We we have enough kids that have experienced issues from this. So I said to you all, go get this. I go like, for instance, Greenleaf, they do an amazing job on suicide prevention and education. Okay, Mike, that's your thing. That's. That's. That's what you do. I need you to do it for all of them. So we kind of had conversations about what they what their thing is kind of like. When I went to kids, they found their thing. So the social, emotional, I'm like, I need you to do that. Come into my buildings, work with my kids, work with my teachers, because we had to keep an eye on the teachers as well. Yes, it was it was very tough. It was very everybody, not just the kid. Yeah, it was it was going through everybody was going through this. And so, you know, we provided opportunities for for teachers if you know, if they needed anything. But I told those organizations, I need you here. And they they've stepped up and just been amazing. Red Oak kind of leads that for us. But we have Greenleaf Child guidance. We've added a few new ones that are actually coming into the classroom, working with teachers, working with students, Peter James and Associates, Impossible, limitless ambition. Listen to more. The more resources I can wrap around our children to help them and the more resources or resources I can wrap around our staff to help them, the better off are all going to be. Makes sense. Makes perfect sense. That's what I would say too. Even in high school, there were a lot of kids who we would see just say out someone in the hallways and stuff that you could tell we're going through something. It's just more of trying to make them feel comfortable to be able to go through and talk with these people. Right? Because when we would have our meetings in the classroom or they would come in and talk to us, I would be amongst my friends talking about it or whatever. But then you would see the one or two that were just off separated in the classroom that was like, All right, well, they might have something going on, but they didn't really want to participate because maybe they were scared to put something down on paper than somebody else see it or something. So it's more of like, I don't know what, but just more is like is an example to say, maybe try and do something where it could be more one on one or something just so they can understand and be able to talk with one person rather than Hey, I suffer from depression and say it in front of 20 people, right? And then you don't want anyone to know. And as you know, our counselors are amazing, our building years. And I think what we've what we've done with that group and that our counselors, our counselors do amazing. But they can't do it. All right? So when they do get those individual ones, they then reach out to the organizations and say, listen, you know, or take a little bit further. You know, when there's an issue where there's no bad kids. Right. There's not. Do they have issues? Do things happen? Absolutely. Sometimes you got to dig a little deeper as a school system. Sometimes there's something going around going on at home that is causing these things. So we actually have we've we've worked with organizations that actually go into the home and help the whole family. And I think that's indication. I'm going to take it even one step further. We have a lot of grandparents who are raising kids. Yes, not their kids, but their grandkids. They need help. And so what we what we're trying to do, which we started a little bit last year, we're we're trying to start a parent guardian grandparent support group. Wow. And just let them know, hey, we have all these organizations. We have all these resources. If you need help, we're here for you. It's just it's nice to have people that have something in common like that to talk to. Yes. Because they're the one way or another. They're all going through somewhat of the same thing that someone like myself can't associate with. Right. They've got that one thing that that's amazing. I think to me, we we need to move to the lightning. Lightning? Well, that's it. So in this I got to get my Yeah, be right there. And there you go. There you go. There you go. So we're going to ask you some questions. Okay? We need one or two sentence answers. Oh, I realize you know this know this is going to be the most difficult thing possible if I reach over and just rip the microphone out, you know, he's there. So, yeah, we don't want one or two sentence answers. So the first thing and you alluded a little bit to it, is retirement in the future. I know it's in the future, but how far out this year, next August 28th will be my last day. Wow. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you. Often. Thank you for everything you've done over the past year. Thank you. That's. That's amazing. I love our kids. Our love our staff are all over a community, and I don't think you're going to be a paper trail. No, I A+. Whatever age, you'll still be there. So I'll still be there for them. Yeah, absolutely. Hopping and moving to Cancun as soon as you're retired. Oh, no, no, no. Too hot. I like to change your weather. And then you also kind of touch with this. Do your job. How to start. I mean, you kind of settle with your dad again. Yeah, well, my dad used to say that to me, as has the same Bill Belichick didn't come up with this popsicle again. It was it came from us talking to businesses. And I'm saying we have employees that are coming out of high school. Yeah. That don't show up, don't do their job, don't do their job. And basically, you know, right now in school, when you're in school, your job is to do school. Yeah, but nobody was really wanting to take speech classes at the time because, you know, nobody wants to get up. But that's part of the do your job classes, right? Yeah. You have to be able to get up and speak in front of people. That's amazing. So that's how it started. Nobody was taking speech classes, so we kind of I sit down with the staff. I started taking the staff into local companies like Melco and and Hallmark. And, you know, you drive by these places 30 times, you don't know what they do and they focus on those. Exactly. So so we start I start taking staff there and they, you know, you walk into over 30 different jobs. There's chemistry behind workers. There's there's accountants, there's so many opportunities for kids. So that's how it came about that, hey, we need to do something to help our kids. And I will tell you, the one the one thing that really got me is, you know, at that time, you know, back in 212 to 13, everybody, everybody had to go to college. Well, high school, you know, principal, they come back to games when they've graduated and, hey, how you doing? Tell me something good. They they're like, well, you know, college didn't work out for me and I'm just working this job. And I'm like, that's amazing. I started saying, you know, be proud of that. I go, You're showing up every day. Are you getting a good wage? I go, Please be proud of that. Yeah, that kind of stuck with me and I think we got it. We have to do something again. We have to get them ready. I don't know if you ever heard Mr. Miron sprinkle a little bit of common sense on things here. And that's why at the high school, Mr. Muir has done a great job. We celebrate college signings, we celebrate going in the military and we celebrate. If you get a great job, we celebrate it equally. And that's why I again, I love this place. And, you know, most people, you know, they're they're just getting on board. We've been doing it for 12 years. So I'm very excited about that. This next one, you have to pick one. Just one one. What is your I know this is going to be tough. What is your favorite thing about being superintendent one Just one is a 20. It is headed right now, I should say. I get the call snow days, but I that because I'm up all night. Oh, I'm up all night. I hate it. Then whatever decision you make, not everybody's happy. So no, I get to help kids. I get that. I get to help create answer. And then what do you miss most about your life before being a superintendent? You know, that's the one thing that that and I've tried to be that superintendent that gets in the buildings. Last year was a little rough with my my hip replacement. So but before that I was always in the buildings. I miss the kids. Like when I was high school principal, I had great relationships with the kids. I knew everybody's name, You know, being down at central office, I don't know everybody's name, no face, new people coming in. Yeah, there's so many new people. But I you know, I'm down in the elementaries and I'm, you know, popping in classes. I love seeing the great things that our teachers are doing. And I love seeing our kids. So probably the the I was a little bit closer with the kids before I became superintendent, but I still try. Like this year, they're not going to I'm going to be in classes every day. You know, the staff's going to be like, Oh my God, this is going we this, this guy and I have to do a job here. Just get out of here because I'm like the grandpa of the district. I go in and get the class fired up and errands and I leave for Mountain View. I never want to take off. So now we have we've got our typical questions that we have to ask. Sure. Everyone. What is your favorite Barberton folklore slash tall tale slash rumor slash? There's no rumors in Barberton. No, none. No, they're all true. That's a tough one. I mean, the mayor talked about the bowling balls in the lake. Well, I just I know that Mr. Andre drives around on a bus with our new teachers every year. Yeah, And I think he mentions to him that Lake Hannah is bottomless. So. So that's, that is, that is by far the most popular. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just the one that pops out that's. We'll take that one. Yes. Yeah. No, that's true. Okay. And then what do you see as the future for Barberton, and where do you think we're headed? I see great things. I see great things. As you know, there's not everybody that's happy, and I got to believe it. I don't care where they live, they still wouldn't be happy. I agree. But there are so many good people here. Again, I think it's one of that familiarity breeds contempt, unless you've been other places and then come here, you just don't realize how special this place is. I think there's so many good things going on. I'm on the foundation board. I'm involved in a lot of things. I moved here. I brought my kids here to school. My wife and I talk about the best movie ever made is to bring our kids here. That's awesome, because they're both doing amazing. And I attribute that to Mrs. Ram that's in the board and staff, not me. I had nothing to do with any of it, and I think they'll tell you the same thing. But no great opportunity. Great. Listen, there's there's cities out there where there are the safety forces and the schools don't get along. We we are hand-in-hand. Yeah. I think we we get along so well and we collaborate and we make sure our kids are safe and their staff are safe every day. It's just, again, a very special place. There's big things that are happening. Companies are coming back here. Main Street Program, Main Street program there. So everything's I mean, right now, I think it's a it's a great place to live. And I am looking forward to the future, I think, and especially the opportunities that our children and our students are going to have in this city is is more than they've ever had in the past. So. Well, that to me seems like an awesome place to lead off. Thank you very much. We really appreciate you. Thank you. Yes, I am. I am a talker. So you're good at it. Yeah. Nice long episode. No shoppers hook around here. No, no, no. We didn't unplug the mic or anything like that. So, everyone, thank you. Make sure you share this with your Magic City neighbors, and we will see you soon. They.